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notElon asked me to discuss, and to try and derive the Schrödinger equation, so I'll give it a shot. This derivation is partially based on Sakurai,[1] with some differences.
A brief walk through classical mechanics
Say we have a function of
(1)
We'll expand (2)
which can be simplified using the series expansion of the exponential1 to(3)
from which we can conclude that(4)
If you do a similar thing with rotations around the (5)
where Comparing (4) and (5), we see that both have an exponential with a parameter (distance or angle) multiplied by something (
(6)
where From classical to quantum
In classical dynamics, the time derivative of a quantity
(7)
where (8)
where the square brackets signify a commutation relation and (9)
specifically.Additionally, we can extend from here that any quantum operator
(10)
So, using (4) the quantum mechanical space translation operator is given by
(11)
and, using (5), the rotation operator by(12)
or, from (6) any arbitrary (unitary) transformation, (13)
where Time translation of a quantum state
Consider a quantum state at time
(14)
From our previous discussion we know that if we know the classical generator of time translation we can write (15)
and (14) becomes(16)
This holds true for any time translation, so we'll consider a small time translation and expand (16) using a Taylor expansion3 dropping all quadratic and higher terms:
(17)
Moving things around gives(18)
In the limit (19)
For a system with conserved total energy, the classical Hamiltonian is the total energy
(20)
which, making the substitution for quantum mechanical momentum (21)
References
[1] J.J. Sakurai. Modern Quantum Mechanics. Addison-Wesley, San Francisco, CA, revised edition, 1993.
[2] J.D. Jackson. Classical Electrodynamics. John Wiley & Sons, Inc., 3rd edition, 1998.
[3] L.D. Landau and E.M. Lifshitz. Mechanics. Pergamon Press, Oxford, UK.
[4] L.D. Landau and E.M. Lifshitz. Quantum Mechanics. Butterworth-Heinemann, Oxford, UK.
[5] H. Goldstein, C. Poole, and J. Safko. Classical Mechanics. Cambridge University Press, San Francisco, CA, 3rd edition, 2002.
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2 There are other ways to do this, differing by factors of
3 Kind of the reverse of how we got to this whole exponential notation in the first place...
That's an interesting approach, and very clearly written and understandable.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me however somewhat against the grain of "behind the guesses". In particular, equation 8, motivating the -i/h difference between the quantum and classical Hamiltonians, appears to be to have been pulled out of a magic hat. Although it obviously works to get the desired equation, a natural motivation for this factor or the quantum version of the poisson bracket would be desirable.
Also, it isn't clear to me that the generalization in (10) to "any" quantum operator from it's classical counterpart is justifyable or if it is the details of what that mean exactly are not clear (consider the one dimensional position operator with no i/hbar factors until you go to the momentum space representation).
Peeter,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment. I agree that Eq. (8) is a bit "out of the blue," but going through that derivation is really a bit more off topic. Maybe I'll cover it in another blog post :-) But see the Landau and Lifshitz book (ref [4]), section 9, pp. 27-27 and footnote for an excellent discussion (they differ by a factor of i).
Regarding your latter point, I think you are right -- I made a mistake (I'll correct it in a new post soon). Briefly, though, as I noted, any classical Poisson bracket can be transferred over to the QM commutator with the iℏ. This means that there's a difference of iℏ for only one of the operators. For the Hamiltonian equation (8) f can be anything, so my argument holds. But for the x and p operators there's a vagueness. So in one representation the p's get those factors, in another the x's do.
Perhaps offtopic, but what would you recommend as the best QM book(s), or online references, for self study. I've currently got Bohm's Quantum theory, French's Introductory QM, Pauli's Wave Mechanics, and Feynman's volume 3, but am lacking any text with a modern treatment.
ReplyDeleteI've been working my way through these kind of lock step. Bohm's text is very well laid out and the problems are helpful. Feynman's doesn't have problems which makes it fairly hard to actively use (will probably be better once I know the subject). Pauli's is fairly dense and takes a lot of puzzling out, but has helpful bits, and French's I plan to revisit in more detail later (having covered some of it eons ago when I did my engineering undergrad). I wasn't impressed with Liboff's book which I borrowed from the public library (too many magic hats used there).
Hi,
ReplyDeleteYou cited a couple books, but do you happen to have the pages/chapters in which the specific examples appear?
Thanks
Lucas,
ReplyDeleteIn Sakurai: pp. 68-72
Jackson: pp. 543-548
Landau Lifshitz CM: pp. 135-138
Landau Lifshitz QM: pp. 27-27
Goldstein: 407-408
Peeter,
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